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Post by Moira on Sept 16, 2018 18:55:17 GMT -5
Considering mess we've come back to, I think we need a place to organize our thoughts. You can use this thread for any ideas, plans, plots, schemes, or errands you want to suggest for upcoming sessions. And just as an extra precaution, I've warded the thread with protections against scrying, so Candi can't use anything we strategize here against us.
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Post by Moira on Sept 17, 2018 12:33:33 GMT -5
So I think one thing worth doing would be to have anyone proficient in disguise kits create quality disguises for anyone in the party who don't have access to Disguise Self. Based on XGtE, this is something that can be done as part of a long rest. Having a whole wardrobe of disguises would probably make our lives a bit easier.
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Post by garruk94 on Sept 17, 2018 12:52:57 GMT -5
SPLIT THE PARTY!!! I think that the best plan would be to rally the people, form a militia and take the city back. People who can do secret squirrel stuff and organize should go do that. This I think would include Morgan to get support from any nobles that are still around, Harriet to talk to the common people and tell them to prepare to take back the city when the time us right. Kuku is straight up eyes in the sky recon. He should be getting as much information as possible such as troop movements, and routines. Patrol patterns, shift changes, how many troops are there, where is the majority of them located. From the sky any changes made to the city such as damage or knocked down buildings anything that could be a choke point or used to conceal stuff. Simon, Moose, Grogrot and Jimmic should go back to the sanctuary talk to remaining mercenaries and see about any other mercenaries we can hire. Grogrot has a background for tribe member, perhaps try to gather support from any clans nearby. Then hopefully return with an army to attack the city walls and cause a big enough diversion that we can pull guards away from the mayor and get in with a small force to overthrow him.
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Post by Zero on Sept 17, 2018 21:19:54 GMT -5
I'm not so sure that a full uprising is the way to go. That would lead to confusion and chaos. The cost of innocent and civilian life would be to much. I think we need something more precise and quiet. As much as Morgunn would like to see Grogrot as Lord Mayor, there is a civilized way to accomplish that. I like the plan of amassing as much recon and information as possible. The more knowledge we have, the stronger any action we take will be. The procurement of disguises is a great idea. Morgunn' s house can be raided for all the clothing in it. There should be clothes from her parents, her brother, and herself. The group is welcome to any and all that Morgunn has. Morgunn is also going to cast create food and water every time it's needed.
We need to find the imposter ruler of the city and remove him and his ilk from the seat of power. There were good people governing the city when we left. They need to be reinstalled and Cauldron needs to return to an even keel.
There must be a way into the town house/city hall that would be unnoticed. We do have knowledge of the under-passages of the city. If we do not know the way in is there a thieves' guild that can be of assistance? If we knew where the imposter is, his habits and his protection, we may be able to accomplish our goals with little to no bloodshed. At least no citizen bloodshed. Morgunn is a NG aligned paladin. Her first duty is to the citizens of Cauldron and the protection of their lives. She would rather try to exhaust every avenue available before plunging the city into fire and death.
There is also the issue of how to arm the citizens of Cauldron. Where would we find the weapons and armor to accomplish that? How much time would we have to train them? We are an experienced unit of adventurers with some awesome battles behind us. We know what are capabilities are and for the most part we know what to expect from each other. We don't know what to expect from the general citizenship of the city. Or even how many will stand and fight. I think we should play to our strengths.
On another note, Did Harriett take damage to her armor from the rust monsters? If so, Hope, you might want to see Jennya and see if she can cast mending on it. I do not know if any of the casters in the group has that spell
Sorry for the length and disjointedness of this post. My mind tends to ramble. -Christian "Sir Morgunn Kalavan"
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Post by Moira on Sept 17, 2018 22:15:07 GMT -5
I'm down for splitting the party, but I think some preliminary recon is gonna be really important. We need to find out all we can about the mayor before making any major decisions. For all we know, he could be secretly backed by any number of factions. He could be a puppet for the ebon triad, or the thieves guild, or a beholder, or that black dragon, or the cagewrights, or a demon, or god knows what.
By the way, isn't there a passage under a smithy's shop to the caverns down below? And didn't those caverns have passages that led to the surface outside the city? That'd probably make for a decent way in and out of the city, or under the right circumstances, a way to get a band of mercenaries into the city, if that ends up being necessary.
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Post by Harriet on Sept 19, 2018 20:37:16 GMT -5
I guess we could assassinate the mayor and see who replaces him... I was bored with him anyway The rust monster didn't come anywhere near me. I'm just going to say now that I have limited patience for hiding and disguise. So if we are doing recon, we should do it quickly. Maybe after that something appropriately heroic and dashing. Large gestures, jubilant shouting, crowds chanting my name...
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Post by garruk94 on Sept 19, 2018 20:53:36 GMT -5
I still think striking with a large army of our own is the way to go. Trying to be stealthy is great when we're talking about a small number of enemies. 1 screw up on a stealth check, or one guard not instantly subdued is going to scream and trigger an alarm, then we're facing a whole army by ourselves. Not great odds. If whatever has taken over the city is evil which it sort of seems like it is, then trying to reason, or negotiate or come to an understanding seems like a lost cause. Getting the people to help take back their city to me doesn't seem like an unfair request. I'm not saying put weapons in everyone's hands, but those who can fight and are willing to fight should be allowed to. Those who cant fight can still help just by simply gathering in masses, or disrupt trade routes, have food meant for the troop and leadership go missing. What I'm trying to suggest is to simply make absolute chaos in the town to have guards scattered all over, and have so many problems going on at once that they cant coordinate. Then we can slip into town hall during the distraction. I know grogrot helped build the sewers and underground tunnels around the city. But recently some were collapsed or closed up. But he could spend a day or 2 down there and see what is still accessible and where we can get.
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Post by IcarusIX on Sept 21, 2018 16:04:25 GMT -5
War is never clean, easy, or without collateral damage. This is our home we're talking about. If we attack with an army, or even just take over with an insurrection, our friends and neighbors will never trust us again. We've worked so long and so hard to build the trust that we have now. There was a time when no one could imagine monsters living in the city with the rest of us. Then there was so much more than that. What we created wasn't just entertainment, but culture. True joy.
I'd suggest we begin with the information gathering, and then see where the information takes us. If we decide after that there's no other way to proceed than an all out assault, so be it. But I'd be willing to bet the information we garner will open other avenues to us.
Grogrot, by now you likely have the respect of the town guard. You also have the respect of many in the nobility and merchantry, due to your accomplishments and rise to glory. Try seeing what these groups can tell you about the Lord Governor's loyal men, their arms, and any rumors about what's going on in our lovely city hall. There might be more weaknesses to pick at that we've yet to see.
Morgunn, you're obviously in good graces with the clergy. Make the rounds and see what they know, too. Would you find out if all of them maintain their loyalty to the current Lord Governor, or if they'd lend assistance to a faction looking to peacefully supplant him? Even just having their positive endorsement can have a powerful effect on public opinion.
Kookoo and Harriett, you're both in quite the astounding position to utilize the academic resources of our fair city. Perhaps one or both of you would like to see how the schools and universities are weighing in on the Lord Governship, politically, as well as seeing if there are some lesser known laws we might utilize to our advantage. The pen is mightier than the sword, after all.
Simon, I've heard you can be anyone I want you to be... But you can also be whoever YOU want to be. You have a lot of possibilities open to you. You could go with anyone to help them out, lend them some credibility as they go about asking questions. Or you could go do your own thing, if you have any ideas on where you'd like to garner information.
These are just my suggestions. I'd be willing to bet if we did a lot of this and met back after with the information we found, we'd be able to make a better plan on how to tackle this city's oppression.
Love and smooches,
~M
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Post by Moira on Sept 22, 2018 1:15:58 GMT -5
I think I have an idea for what I could do, but it could be sorta risky. It would involve disguising myself as the missing mayor and briefly appearing in a public place (ideally with some city guards present), and then dropping my disguise out of sight. Then, I would use my invisible familiar to spy on the acting mayor and see how he reacts when news eventually reaches him. Best case scenario, if he was involved in the mayor's disappearance, he goes into panic mode and hosts a bunch of secret meetings in his office that I'll be able to listen in on. That being said, doing something this big this early might not be a great idea, and might just end with him being really suspicious. Either way, I'm probably going to spend some time using my familiar to spy on the acting mayor and possibly the captain of the city guard. After enough observation, I should be able to perfectly imitate them (using the actor feat) if it's ever necessary. Plus, I might be able to pick up on some useful tidbits.
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